1 00:00:06,910 --> 00:00:01,629 [Music] 2 00:00:28,610 --> 00:00:06,920 greeting citizens and welcome to unknown 3 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:30,770 I'm Jason McClellan thanks for hanging 4 00:00:34,970 --> 00:00:32,970 out with me I've seen some conversations 5 00:00:37,790 --> 00:00:34,980 circulating on social media lately about 6 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:37,800 a particular case from UFO history the 7 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:40,350 case of the controversial and polarizing 8 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:43,710 figure known as Billy Meyer I first 9 00:00:48,350 --> 00:00:46,410 researched this case back in 2011 when I 10 00:00:51,770 --> 00:00:48,360 was with the UFO media company open 11 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:51,780 minds it's both fascinating and utterly 12 00:00:57,619 --> 00:00:54,960 bizarre we'll get into that story today 13 00:01:01,580 --> 00:00:57,629 but first let's get announcements out of 14 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:01,590 the way alien Cohn is going to sneak up 15 00:01:04,910 --> 00:01:02,910 on us before we know it 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:04,920 alien con Los Angeles brings together 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:07,770 experts the stars of ancient aliens and 18 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:10,410 science fiction fan favorites if you 19 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:11,910 want to spend a weekend with like-minded 20 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:14,880 people to challenge existing beliefs and 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:16,950 seek disclosure of all kinds in an 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:18,530 environment that fosters learning 23 00:01:24,350 --> 00:01:22,050 discovery and discussion all while 24 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:24,360 having a good time then consider making 25 00:01:28,820 --> 00:01:26,430 it out to a lien con Los Angeles June 26 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,830 21st through the 23rd at the Los Angeles 27 00:01:31,820 --> 00:01:30,720 Convention Center in downtown Los 28 00:01:33,740 --> 00:01:31,830 Angeles California 29 00:01:35,630 --> 00:01:33,750 my fellow rogue planets here Ryan 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Sprague and I will be speaking at alien 31 00:01:40,669 --> 00:01:38,130 Con XI and heard and Maureen Elsberry 32 00:01:42,199 --> 00:01:40,679 will be there too so come out and hang 33 00:01:45,620 --> 00:01:42,209 out with us and help make it a little 34 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:45,630 easier use the discount code unknown to 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:48,750 receive $10 off any ticket purchase head 36 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,970 over to the alien Kong comm to get your 37 00:01:54,919 --> 00:01:53,119 tickets we hope to see you there 38 00:01:58,669 --> 00:01:54,929 alright let's get into our discussion 39 00:02:00,589 --> 00:01:58,679 about billy meier as I mentioned my 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:00,599 research into this complicated case of 41 00:02:06,710 --> 00:02:04,530 billy meier began in 2011 one of the 42 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:06,720 primary researchers of this case was 43 00:02:12,110 --> 00:02:09,660 Lieutenant Colonel Wendell Stevens open 44 00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:12,120 minds had acquired Wendell's complete 45 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:14,280 archives at this point and it's this 46 00:02:21,410 --> 00:02:16,500 historic archive are utilized in 47 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:21,420 researching this case extraterrestrials 48 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:22,680 from another dimension 49 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:26,700 began visiting a young boy in 1942 these 50 00:02:31,850 --> 00:02:29,910 visitors imparted wisdom and guidance to 51 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:31,860 the boy to prepare to become a great 52 00:02:37,819 --> 00:02:35,360 prophet when he became a man the 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:37,829 extraterrestrials permitted him to snap 54 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:40,290 photographs and record videos of their 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:41,380 spaceships 56 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:43,810 and they even whisked him away on 57 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:46,990 time-traveling adventures at least that 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:49,540 is how billy meier tells the story of 59 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:50,130 his life 60 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:59,270 the case of billy edward albert meyer is 61 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:01,200 one of the most controversial cases in 62 00:03:06,170 --> 00:03:04,620 ufology meyer claims to have personally 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:06,180 interacted with multiple 64 00:03:11,150 --> 00:03:08,970 extraterrestrials during his life taken 65 00:03:13,970 --> 00:03:11,160 more than 1,000 of the clearest UFO 66 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:13,980 photos and written word for word 67 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:16,110 transcripts of his conversations with 68 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:18,750 these extraterrestrials he even 69 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:21,930 established a church of sorts called fee 70 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:24,750 goo which the English translation 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:27,060 roughly is free community of interests 72 00:03:32,510 --> 00:03:29,610 for the fringe and spiritual sciences 73 00:03:34,820 --> 00:03:32,520 and youthful logical studies and he 74 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:34,830 established this to spread the teachings 75 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:37,890 of these extraterrestrials according to 76 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:41,100 the Figge website Maier quote got the 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:43,200 nickname Billy from an American woman 78 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:46,290 named Judy Reed Edward Meyer wearing a 79 00:03:51,590 --> 00:03:48,780 black hat and gun belt reminded her of 80 00:03:55,940 --> 00:03:51,600 Billy the Kid the legendary gunman of 81 00:03:58,220 --> 00:03:55,950 the Wild West in quote Billy Meyer was 82 00:04:02,990 --> 00:03:58,230 born in the small village of Bullock 83 00:04:05,570 --> 00:04:03,000 Switzerland On February 3rd 1937 Maier 84 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:05,580 was the second of seven children born to 85 00:04:11,510 --> 00:04:08,430 julius meyer a shoemaker and his wife 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Bertha in the book spaceships of the 87 00:04:18,380 --> 00:04:14,850 pleiades author kalkhoff explains that 88 00:04:20,690 --> 00:04:18,390 in his younger years Maier quote spent 89 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:20,700 his time working various manual labor 90 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:24,030 jobs dodging truant officers and having 91 00:04:29,450 --> 00:04:26,720 occasional brushes with the law in quote 92 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:29,460 Korff alleges that Meyer repeatedly 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:31,650 found himself in correctional facilities 94 00:04:36,410 --> 00:04:33,690 and repeatedly escaped from these 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:36,420 facilities after escaping from the 96 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:38,610 Arbour Correctional Facility in Rio now 97 00:04:42,830 --> 00:04:41,040 Switzerland Meyer reportedly fled to 98 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:42,840 France where he joined the French 99 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:46,110 Foreign Legion only a few months later 100 00:04:52,090 --> 00:04:49,260 Mayer went AWOL but then turned himself 101 00:04:55,610 --> 00:04:52,100 over to the authorities in Switzerland 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:55,620 after the quote transgressions of his 103 00:05:01,260 --> 00:04:58,650 youth as court put it my our travelled 104 00:05:04,350 --> 00:05:01,270 extensively through Europe 105 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,360 freaka and asia he performed a variety 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:06,400 of jobs to support himself along his 107 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:10,090 travels including quote chicken farmer 108 00:05:19,230 --> 00:05:14,340 grape picker nail pounder snake catcher 109 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:19,240 truck driver puppeteer waiter german 110 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:21,970 tutor and ship painter end quote 111 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:25,360 according to court there's an 112 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:28,180 interesting article about Meyer dated 113 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:31,810 September 30th 1964 from the Indian 114 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:34,210 newspaper or The Statesman and I'll read 115 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:38,530 you some of the highlights quote is the 116 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:41,230 flying saucer a myth far from it 117 00:05:46,410 --> 00:05:44,170 according to mr. Edward Albert a 28 year 118 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:46,420 old Swiss national who left Delhi for 119 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:48,310 Pakistan and route to Switzerland on 120 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:51,340 Monday quote I have not only seen the 121 00:05:55,230 --> 00:05:53,230 objects from outer space would have 122 00:05:58,500 --> 00:05:55,240 taken photographs and even traveled in 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:05:58,510 them thrice and quote he said and quote 124 00:06:04,110 --> 00:06:01,330 the article goes on to say quote the 125 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:04,120 photographs taken in Greece Jordan and 126 00:06:10,980 --> 00:06:07,750 India are neatly kept in an album mr. 127 00:06:13,410 --> 00:06:10,990 Albert politely declines a request for a 128 00:06:18,030 --> 00:06:13,420 copy of the photographs with the remark 129 00:06:18,930 --> 00:06:18,040 quote I can't spare them unquote he said 130 00:06:21,090 --> 00:06:18,940 he had taken about four hundred 131 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:21,100 photographs of the space objects but 132 00:06:26,490 --> 00:06:23,170 most of them have been stolen some in 133 00:06:28,770 --> 00:06:26,500 Jordan some in India sitting bare bodied 134 00:06:31,170 --> 00:06:28,780 in one of the cave like monuments in 135 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:31,180 Delhi where he had been staying since 136 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:33,310 his arrival in India about five months 137 00:06:40,140 --> 00:06:37,090 ago mr. Albert sounds rather weird but 138 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:40,150 then he clearly is not eager to talk 139 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:42,850 about his experiences which to see the 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:46,330 least are remarkable indeed the little 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:49,690 that he has to say had to be pried out 142 00:06:54,210 --> 00:06:52,690 of him he doesn't want publicity he 143 00:06:57,570 --> 00:06:54,220 doesn't care if anyone believes him or 144 00:07:00,340 --> 00:06:57,580 not to the unbeliever he simply refuses 145 00:07:02,650 --> 00:07:00,350 to talk end quote 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:02,660 he goes on to talk about some travels 147 00:07:07,810 --> 00:07:04,610 and spaceships and different planets 148 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:07,820 he's seen while on these spaceships the 149 00:07:13,330 --> 00:07:10,310 article continues quote I have a mission 150 00:07:15,850 --> 00:07:13,340 to fulfill says mr. Albert but refuses 151 00:07:17,860 --> 00:07:15,860 to explain what it is quote I will 152 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:17,870 disclose it when the time comes 153 00:07:22,660 --> 00:07:20,080 positively before a year in quote 154 00:07:25,810 --> 00:07:22,670 besides his none too impressive close 155 00:07:28,990 --> 00:07:25,820 his space album camera and a couple of 156 00:07:31,750 --> 00:07:29,000 bags mr. Albert has a pet monkey which 157 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:31,760 he is named emperor soon after he landed 158 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:32,420 at murali 159 00:07:38,590 --> 00:07:34,910 his money three hundred fifty dollars 160 00:07:42,370 --> 00:07:38,600 was stolen since then he had been trying 161 00:07:44,410 --> 00:07:42,380 to get work or money but in vain a few 162 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:44,420 days ago he met a German youth a 163 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:47,510 hitchhiker on his way back to Europe the 164 00:07:54,490 --> 00:07:50,560 German also with a pet monkey Empress 165 00:07:57,070 --> 00:07:54,500 was glad to help the Swiss out the Swiss 166 00:08:00,190 --> 00:07:57,080 the German and the monkeys left on 167 00:08:02,020 --> 00:08:00,200 Monday evening by train from there they 168 00:08:04,350 --> 00:08:02,030 plan to hitchhike their way home to 169 00:08:07,390 --> 00:08:04,360 Europe each to his own native country 170 00:08:11,650 --> 00:08:07,400 the story of mr. Albert is as incredible 171 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:11,660 as it is startling he proposes to relate 172 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:14,240 to German scientists his experiences 173 00:08:19,510 --> 00:08:17,450 show his photographs and the objects 174 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:19,520 that he says he has collected from the 175 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:22,310 planets he visited has mr. Albert 176 00:08:28,270 --> 00:08:25,610 created history or is he a mystic who 177 00:08:35,810 --> 00:08:28,280 has let his imagination run wild time 178 00:08:40,730 --> 00:08:38,870 along his multi continent journey Maya 179 00:08:44,060 --> 00:08:40,740 reportedly joined most of the religions 180 00:08:46,910 --> 00:08:44,070 of Europe Africa and Asia in search of a 181 00:08:48,110 --> 00:08:46,920 quote belief system acceptable to him 182 00:08:50,540 --> 00:08:48,120 end quote 183 00:08:52,910 --> 00:08:50,550 according to UFO researcher Lieutenant 184 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:52,920 Colonel Wendell Stevens during his 185 00:08:59,470 --> 00:08:55,710 travels Meyer lost one of his arms in a 186 00:09:02,300 --> 00:08:59,480 gruesome bus accident on August 3rd 1965 187 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:02,310 Myer was riding in a bus to Iskenderun 188 00:09:09,410 --> 00:09:06,060 Turkey a drunk bus driver on another bus 189 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:09,420 crashed into Meyers bus the impact 190 00:09:15,290 --> 00:09:12,240 ejected Meyer from the bus and crushed 191 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:15,300 his left arm so severely that it had to 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:20,160 be amputated Meyer undeterred continued 193 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:22,290 his travels and relocated to Greece 194 00:09:28,970 --> 00:09:25,710 where he met Calliope whom he married in 195 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:28,980 March of 1966 the couple moved to 196 00:09:34,910 --> 00:09:30,690 Pakistan where their first child 197 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:34,920 gilgamesher was born then in 1970 Maya 198 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:36,690 returned to Switzerland with his family 199 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:38,520 where they later welcomed their second 200 00:09:44,660 --> 00:09:41,360 child atlantis Socrates into the world 201 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:44,670 their youngest child Methuselah was born 202 00:09:51,380 --> 00:09:48,090 in 1973 the family rented a farmhouse in 203 00:09:53,690 --> 00:09:51,390 the town of hen will and while myra was 204 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:53,700 a skilled farmer the loss of his arm 205 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:56,340 limited what he could accomplish he was 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:09:58,170 receiving a small monthly welfare 207 00:10:02,390 --> 00:09:59,490 payment from the Swiss government 208 00:10:04,430 --> 00:10:02,400 because of his handicap but to 209 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:04,440 supplement the family's income Maya 210 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:08,450 raised chickens and sold their eggs in 211 00:10:13,130 --> 00:10:11,730 1974 why are placed an ad in the German 212 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:13,140 magazine s Otara 213 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:16,500 seeking quote anyone who might wish to 214 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:18,800 form a group for discussing and studying 215 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:21,450 metaphysical or paranormal subjects in 216 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:24,720 quote according to Korff people 217 00:10:29,330 --> 00:10:26,850 responded to the ad and a study group 218 00:10:31,820 --> 00:10:29,340 was born he was at one of these meetings 219 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:31,830 where Maier first made the astonishing 220 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:34,610 claim that he was in direct contact with 221 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:37,800 extraterrestrials Meyers extraordinary 222 00:10:42,770 --> 00:10:39,330 claims garnered international attention 223 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:42,780 when Swiss UFO researcher losin tags 224 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:45,360 since Meyers photos to Wendell Stevens 225 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:48,180 in the United States Stevens went to 226 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:49,320 Switzerland to invest 227 00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:52,560 the case and as a result he published 228 00:10:59,390 --> 00:10:56,580 UFO contact from the Pleiades as well as 229 00:11:03,200 --> 00:10:59,400 message from the Pleiades a four-volume 230 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:03,210 set of books related to the case is one 231 00:11:08,090 --> 00:11:05,100 of the primary researchers of the Meier 232 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:08,100 case Stephens multi-year investigation 233 00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:10,770 played a large part in introducing billy 234 00:11:13,930 --> 00:11:13,350 mayer to the world in the world - billy 235 00:11:17,420 --> 00:11:13,940 meier 236 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:17,430 my reportedly saw his first UFO at the 237 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:21,750 age of five On June 2nd 1942 he 238 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:23,850 continued seeing UFOs throughout the 239 00:11:29,390 --> 00:11:26,370 year and the sightings increased in 240 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:29,400 frequency Meyer also began hearing a 241 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:31,950 voice in his head and later that year 242 00:11:37,420 --> 00:11:34,650 Meyer experienced his first alleged 243 00:11:39,650 --> 00:11:37,430 physical extraterrestrial contact 244 00:11:42,350 --> 00:11:39,660 wendell stevens described this encounter 245 00:11:45,890 --> 00:11:42,360 in his book UFO contact from the 246 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:45,900 Pleiades quote in November that same 247 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:48,170 year shortly before his sixth birthday 248 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:51,810 Meyer saw a pear-shaped object suddenly 249 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:54,570 draw from the sky and settled gently on 250 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:56,730 the meadow grass in woods near their 251 00:12:02,390 --> 00:12:00,240 hometown abullah an old man took him 252 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:02,400 into the ship and high above the earth 253 00:12:08,570 --> 00:12:05,160 and brought him back to the same meadow 254 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:08,580 and let him out the ship then shot up 255 00:12:12,860 --> 00:12:10,950 vertically at high speed until out of 256 00:12:15,830 --> 00:12:12,870 sight end quote 257 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:15,840 Meyer says that this old man who took 258 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:17,910 him for a ride on the spaceship was 259 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:21,210 names Fath Spath continued communicating 260 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:23,730 with meyer telepathically for a year and 261 00:12:29,060 --> 00:12:26,730 a half then returned in his pear-shaped 262 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:29,070 craft to take meyer on another adventure 263 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:32,610 and quote imparted a great deal of 264 00:12:37,970 --> 00:12:35,310 knowledge and told of events to come 265 00:12:38,330 --> 00:12:37,980 much of which he did not understand at 266 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:38,340 the time 267 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:41,730 unquote according to stephens the next 268 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:43,950 extraterrestrial to contact meyer was a 269 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:46,010 female named asket 270 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:48,380 mayer alleges his contact with asket 271 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:52,220 began in 1953 and she picked up where's 272 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:54,620 fat left off she was apparently 273 00:12:59,620 --> 00:12:57,290 responsible for educating Meyer who 274 00:13:01,630 --> 00:12:59,630 according to Cal corpse book spaceships 275 00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:01,640 of the Pleiades dropped out of school 276 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:05,720 before finishing the sixth grade in UFO 277 00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:07,910 contact from the Pleiades Stephen 278 00:13:13,930 --> 00:13:10,270 explains asked its role in Myers life 279 00:13:16,330 --> 00:13:13,940 quote it was she who led him through a 280 00:13:20,290 --> 00:13:16,340 series of adventures designed to toughen 281 00:13:22,540 --> 00:13:20,300 him for the adversity to come it was she 282 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:22,550 who led him through Africa and the 283 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:24,320 experiences in the French Foreign Legion 284 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:27,910 the desert caravans the slavers 285 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:30,710 revolutionaries and bootleggers into the 286 00:13:36,010 --> 00:13:32,690 hands of the Pirates of the Arabian Sea 287 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:36,020 and across the Indian Oceans as a sailor 288 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:38,570 with the freighters to the subcontinent 289 00:13:44,110 --> 00:13:41,690 of India in quote it was a skit who 290 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:44,120 allegedly led Meyer to explore many 291 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:47,270 careers travel the world and experience 292 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:48,830 as much as possible 293 00:13:54,070 --> 00:13:52,130 in 1975 Meyer began his contact with 294 00:13:56,620 --> 00:13:54,080 some jazz a another female 295 00:13:59,410 --> 00:13:56,630 extraterrestrial with whom he allegedly 296 00:14:02,710 --> 00:13:59,420 had more than 100 face-to-face 297 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:02,720 encounters some jazzy lends her name to 298 00:14:07,870 --> 00:14:04,910 the fugu headquarters in Switzerland the 299 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:07,880 sim Josie's silver star Center it was 300 00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:09,560 she who allowed Meyer to begin 301 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:12,470 photographing her quote bean ships and 302 00:14:20,020 --> 00:14:17,120 other UFOs ket saw Fatah and Neera are 303 00:14:23,410 --> 00:14:20,030 three additional extraterrestrials who 304 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:23,420 along with Spath asket and Senja they 305 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:25,220 are the most commonly mentioned 306 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:28,580 characters in the billy meier story but 307 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:31,010 these are only six out of the Dozen of 308 00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:33,080 extraterrestrials Meyer claims to have 309 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:37,070 met according to the Fiji website Meyer 310 00:14:43,690 --> 00:14:40,220 has had more than 900 personal contacts 311 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:43,700 with extraterrestrials spaz like most 312 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:45,110 other extraterrestrials may are 313 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:47,980 supposedly encountered was a plate Ian a 314 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:51,110 human being nearly identical and 315 00:14:55,780 --> 00:14:52,730 physical appearance to Earthlings from 316 00:14:58,379 --> 00:14:55,790 the m45 star cluster known as the 317 00:15:01,629 --> 00:14:58,389 Pleiades in the constellation Taurus 318 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:01,639 but this is not the pleiades observable 319 00:15:09,460 --> 00:15:06,410 by Earth's astronomers see this Pilates 320 00:15:11,650 --> 00:15:09,470 is apparently quote not within our 321 00:15:14,679 --> 00:15:11,660 space-time configuration in quote 322 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:14,689 according to author and Fiji member we 323 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:16,730 know moose burger in his book about the 324 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:19,970 Mayer case titled and yet they fly moose 325 00:15:25,540 --> 00:15:22,730 burger describes that quote Pelagians 326 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:25,550 exist in a physical dimension that he 327 00:15:30,699 --> 00:15:28,160 shifted a fraction of a second ahead of 328 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:30,709 our space-time configuration and is 329 00:15:35,619 --> 00:15:32,809 located approximately 500 light-years 330 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:35,629 from Earth's perspective an additional 331 00:15:42,429 --> 00:15:38,240 80 light years beyond our dimensions 332 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:42,439 Pleiades star system in quote the plate 333 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:44,720 Ian's reportedly inhabit many planets 334 00:15:50,019 --> 00:15:47,540 but their homeworld is a planet called 335 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:50,029 era Meyer has referred to people from 336 00:15:54,939 --> 00:15:52,970 era as errands and Pelagians in general 337 00:15:57,999 --> 00:15:54,949 are sometimes referred to you as pledged 338 00:16:01,389 --> 00:15:58,009 errands because in their dimension the 339 00:16:03,699 --> 00:16:01,399 Pleiades is known as pleasurin but 340 00:16:06,939 --> 00:16:03,709 Meyers alleged extraterrestrial contacts 341 00:16:07,869 --> 00:16:06,949 were not isolated to pledge errands he 342 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:07,879 claims to have encountered 343 00:16:12,610 --> 00:16:09,290 extraterrestrials from different 344 00:16:15,429 --> 00:16:12,620 galaxies systems and universes including 345 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:15,439 the dahle universe asket is from the 346 00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:18,769 dahle universe in UFO contact from the 347 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:21,199 Pleiades Stephen states that the dahle 348 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:23,990 universe is a quote counterpart universe 349 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:26,929 to this of our reality end quote 350 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:29,860 like I said this is an incredibly 351 00:16:37,239 --> 00:16:34,910 complex and yes bizarre case there are 352 00:16:40,269 --> 00:16:37,249 lots of little details to it lots of 353 00:16:43,179 --> 00:16:40,279 people involved lots of claims so 354 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:43,189 where's the evidence well we'll get into 355 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:53,290 [Music] 356 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:55,770 well citizens as we reached the end of 357 00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:57,450 this episode I invite you to come join 358 00:17:01,190 --> 00:16:59,040 us in the rogue planet Facebook 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